LOST 6.17 &6.18- "THE END"

Sperler alert!


And a word of warning, this discussion is a little bit random and scattered...Sorry about that.

 Wow.... What a payoff.
   I don't know about anybody else, but I was certainly not disappointed. As much as it was fun to speculate about the questions being answered, I knew they would never answer "all" of them. I am satisfied with how they needed it, though. it came back to the characters, and that's what the show had always been about(for me, anyway).
    I thought the opening montage contrasting the "sideways" world and the Island world was pretty well done.
 Some really great moments in this one.
  It was great to see Rose & Bernard(and Vincent) again. I loved how Rose very delicately told Desmond that he had to leave because they "didn't get involved", but when Flocke threatened to kill them if Desmond didn't go with him, Rose said"You don't have to go anywhere with him." Rose has always been one of my favorite characters on this show, and that was such a perfect moment for her.
   I liked Jack saying that he took the job as Island protector because the Island was "the only thing in my life that I didn't ruin."
  I also liked Jack defending Locke in the cave "You're not John Locke. You disrespect him by wearing his face, but you're nothing like him."
  LOVED the mountain fight!!
  "I want you to know. jack. You died for nothing."
  And then Kate, :"I saved you a bullet." Flocke is DEAD.
  Jack:"I'm fine. Just find me some thread and I can count to five."

  Ben and Hurley decided to stay with Jack.Jack tells Hurley that he will have to take the job now, that Jack was just meant to stop Flocke.He passes the "torch" to Hurley. Desmond is still alive in the cave, jack saves him, and puts teh cork back in the Island. the water and the light return.
  Lapidus gets Miles, Richard, Claire, Kate and Sawyer off the Island.

  Ben tells Hurley that he should run the Island however he wants to, perhaps beginning with letting Desmond leave.Hurley asks for Ben's help in guarding the Island, Ben accepts, and says he'd be honored.

   In the "sideways" world, a lot was going on. I gotta say, this was really moving for me.I found myself tearing up quite a few times. Desmond's plan starts to come together.
  Is starts when Sun and Jin remember when they are looking at the ultrasound. Sniff,sob.
 then Boone & Hurley reunite Sayid and Shannon. Sniff sob.
 Aaron's delivery triggered Claire, Charlie and Kate. Sniff, sob, sniff.
 Locke is triggered by moving his toes. Sniff,sob. He tells Jack, I hope somebody does for you what you just did for me."
  LOVED Jin and Sun's interaction with Sawyer.
  Sawyer..Excuse me, JAMES and Juliet. Sniff, sob, wail. This one was sooooo good.
  "Kiss me, James."
  "You got it, Blondie."
  Jack and Kate at the concert. Doesn't quite trigger Jack, but I thought Kate's,"I missed you soo much." line was fantastic.
   Ben: I'm very sorry for what I did to you, John. I was selfish, jealous. I wanted everything you had."
  John: If it helps, I forgive you."
  I thought it was interesting that Ben didn't go in with the rest of them. I presume he wanted to work through some things with Alex and Rousseau. I liked his moment with Hurley.
  Kate brings jack to the church, and Jack goes to see his father's body. He touches the coffin, and that is his final trigger, and he has a conversation with his Father where he realizes that he is dead. that they are all dead, but that they have all died at different times, and the "sideways" world was something that they created together so that they could find each other after they died,because they were all important to each other. "Nobody does it alone. You needed all of them, and they needed you."
  It was time for them to move on. Jack goes in to see them all. Christian opens the door. They all see a light.
  back on the Island, we see jack wander back to where it all began, where he landed after the crash. He lies down, he sees the plane take off, so he knows his friends are safe. Vincent lies down with him, and we see his eye close....LOST.

  Wow.It moved me. It's corny, but it's the truth. I don't know that I really knew how much I cared about these characters until this episode, but i found myself really moved by them rediscovering each other, and remembering all they had been through. I like the idea of that.I don't know if it's just because I have lost a couple of people close to me in the last few years, but that concept hit me very hard. I thought it was a great explanation for the sideways reality.

  I know I have more to say, but i want to get this posted, because I want to hear what you guys have to say.
  What did y'all think? What did I miss?

LOST 6.16:What They Died For"

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"I lived here 30 years before you did, also known as last week."- MILES!!!

  Wow. I guess I should have seen Ben's regression coming,and I kinda did, as soon as he met up Widmore, but it still was a bit shocking.

  I don't know that I'm in a mood to just recount the episode, so I think I'll try and free from it a little bit today.

 First- I think at some point in the season Finale, someone(presumably Ben, if the protection from Smokey that Jacob enjoyed transfers to Jack) will hold a knife to Jack's throat...That's why I think he keeps seeing a cut on his neck in the Alternate Reality.

 Why does A/R Locke need to let go? What does he need to let go of? I presume he is the one holding the A/R together...But why?

  Loved the scene with Alex and Ben and Danielle in the A/R. Emerson played that so well, you could just see the confusion of the Island memories and his current reality swirling in his head.And it seemed like he was sad, but didn't really know why.

 Very interesting to see Desmond manipulating all these pieces in the A/R. Everything is going to coincide at the "Concert". Where do you think Hurley and Sayid are going? To see Juliet?

   It was very interesting to see the rage build in Ben as first Widmore showed up, and THEN said that Jacob INVITED him to the Island.It was like haymaker after haymaker being landed on him, all after the initial blow of passing Alex' grave.You could just tell he was gonna snap, and when he did...Oh Man. "He doesn't get to save his daughter." Yikes!!

  Do you think Widmore whispered the truth to Smokey? all that Smokey said was what we heard Widmore say, he didn't add anything from what Widmore whispered.

  Do you think Ben will help Smokey destroy the Island? I don't see him aiding in that endeavor.

  Didn't you know that Richard was dead as soon as he walked outside? i was thinking, "Richard! He doesn't need you to join him anymore!! A lot has happened on your walk to the Dharma barracks!" But he ddin't hear me, and he got "Smoked".

  So, now Ben is with Smokey, and they are going to use Desmond to destroy the Island-I still don't think Ben will help Smokey do that, but we'll see.

   Now, to our Final Four: It was nice to see Jack trying to ease Sawyer's burden about the bomb.
  And it was interesting to see Kate and Jack agree that they need to kill Locke...As if they were still holding out hope there may have been some other way.

  Jacob finally has a sit down with the candidates. We find out quite a bit in this conversation. Kate was crossed off of the list because she became a mother, but the job was still hers if she wants it.

  He tells them taht he brought them to the Island because he needed one of them to take over  protecting the heart of the Island from Smokey, whom he admits he created, a "mistake".
  "I didn't pluck any of you out of a happy existence. You were like me.Alone."

  "You want us to kill him"
  "I hope so, because he most certainly wants to kill you."(or will try to kill you, i didn't write that quote down.)
  Jacob wanted them to have the one thing he never had: A choice. And if they choose not to choose, "This will all end very badly."

  jack stepped up, "This is what I'm here for."
  "Is that a question, Jack?"
  "No."
  "Good."


Jacob takes Jack to the stream,and he has the same ceremony that he had with his Mother. Jack asks how long he will have to do the job, and Jacob tells him "as long as you can."
  Jack is now like Jacob.
  Sawyer gets in one last dig.

  Coupla questions(or maybe just one)- Why do you think Miles is still alive? Comic relief? or do you think one of the dead bodies on the Island is going to have an important piece of info for him? I'm leaning towards the latter...Jack's Dad maybe ? Or maybe Smokey and Jacob's fake mom?



  Okay, that's what I got...What did I miss ? What do y'all think?

LOST 6.15: Across The Sea

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Talk about a flashback, huh?

  So, what answers did we get?

  We learned the identity of Adam and Eve.
   We learned of the origin of Smokey.
 We sorta learned why the Island is special.

 We learned that the MIB and Jacob ARE brothers.

 We learned about MIB's crazy mother.

 What questions were raised?
   How did their Mother end up on the Island?
   How long had she been there?
   Who exactly tasked her with taking care of "the light" ?
  How many other people had she killed? I noticed a bunch of graves behind the pregnant Claudia(I guess that was her "killing spot"?).
  How did she make it so that they could not kill each other?
 Were Jacob and _________ special before they arrived, or did she make them special?
  Why can't Jacob see the dead?
  Do Jacob and ____________ know all the "rules" simply because of their community with the Island? Jacob because he drank the wine and accepted the responsibility and ______________ because he became Smokey?
   What do you think we are supposed to think about the ghost of Claudia? was she just telling her son the truth, or was it some sort of manipulation? But by whom? Does the Island itself tempt and test people?

   I loved "Every question you ask will lead to another question."
    And "One day you can make up your own game, and everyone will have to play by your rules."

 A coupla questions to people smarter than I? Is this like the Esau Jacob story? Or Cain and Abel? The chosen one not wanting to be "chosen", and the other brother stepping in?

  Also, anyone know about when this was supposed to be, history wise? Anyone recognize Claudia and her people's clothing ?

  Wow, my brain is still reeling from this episode.

  What did y'all think ? What did I miss?

LOST 6.14- The Candidate

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"Because it's going to be you, Jack."

  Holy flurking snit! I guess shit is really happening now, isn't it? Wow, what a tremendous episode.

 SAY-FUCKING-ID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     I KNEW that Sayid would redeem himself. And he did it such grand fashion. It was such a Sayid moment, "Listen to me very carefully..." But I'm getting ahead of myself.

 We open in the A/R this episode, so let's get that out of the way. Jack tells John that he thinks John is (gasp!) a "a candidate"...For what ? For magical spinal surgery...John refuses. Jack ain't having it. "I could fix you."

  Jack goes to see Locke's dentist(BERNARD!!) Jack is clearly thrown by the fact that Bernard was also on Oceanic 815(I loved that Bernard said Jack was hitting on Rose while Bernard was in the bathroom).Jack went to see Bernard to try and find out what happened to put Locke in the wheelchair. Bernard remembered that there was someone else in the crash with Locke...Anthony Cooper.(gasp!) Jack seemed a little surprised that Bernard remembered that fact, and Cooper's name. Bernard then tells Jack that he hopes " you find what you're looking for."
 
  Is it just me, or did Bernard seem to know more about what was going on? Are we to think he has already had flashes of the crash?

  Jack goes to see Anthony Cooper, and runs into Locke's fiancée Helen, who asks him to just leave it alone and go. she akss why it can't be enough that he saved Locke's life, and Jack says "Because it's not." Helen then brings him in to meet Anthony Cooper, and he is in a comatose state.

  Jack goes back to see Locke, and while Locke is sleeping, he says "Push the button" and "I wish you believed me."
  Claire comes to see jack about the music box that their father left her...It plays "Catch A Falling Star" which triggered(for me, anyway) a flashback to the great scene of Crazy Claire, Zombie Sayid and Kate walking through the devastation at the temple...Creepy.
  Jack finds out the Claire was ALSO on Oceanic 815...He seems to be coming slightly unglued by all of these "coincidences". he invites Claire to stay at his house, because they are not strangers, they are family.

  Jack then sees Locke as he is leaving the hospital(after Jin passes by Locke, and Locke seems to recognize him, if only for a second) and Locke finally tells jack that he crashed a plane with him and his dad in it, and it was his fault that his Dad was comatose. Jack tries to convince Locke that he has to "let go". He says that "what happened, happened".
  As Locke is leaving, Jack says that He could "fix" Locke, and "I wish you believed me."

   ISLAND

  Jack wakes up in a raft on the beach with Sayid. And Sayid seems to make a little joke("At least you didn't have to paddle.").

  Widmore puts Sawyer, Kate, Hugo, Lapidus and the Kwons into the Hydra cages. He says that he is doing this for their own good. When Sawyer grabs the rifle from one of the henchman("Doughboy"-ha!), Widmore puts a gun to Kate's head and says he has a list with 4 names on it, Ford, Reyes and the Kwons, so he doesn't care what happens to Kate. Sawyer relents and reveals to Kate that her name was crossed out in the cave.

  Locke tells Jack that they have to save "your people" from Widmore. Jack says that they are not "his People", and that he is not leaving the Island. Flocke tells Jack that he could kill everyone of them right now, but he doesn't because he wants them to get off the island. He is a lying liar who lies!!!!

   The power goes down at the Hydra camp where Widmore is. A brief aside for a small nitpick..Why didn't they have someone guarding the generator? And if they did and Sayid killed them, why didn't we see that? Not a HUGE deal, but still.

  Anywjo, the power goes off at the Hydra camp, and we start to hear the familiar click that means Smokey is coming...Hurley: "And we're dead."

  But Jack shows up and lets them out, saying "I'm with Him", and gesturing towards Smokey.They run and meet up with Sayid.

  Locke goes to the plane and kills the people guarding it, and takes something off of the plane- C4. Widmore was going to blow up the plane.Flocke theorizes that Widmore wanted to get "everyone into a confined space" and kill them all by blowing them up. he thinks the sub is now the safer way to leave.

  I was thinking that the c-4 was Widmore's "last defense". If Flocke managed to get on the plane, it would blow up.

  They all head to the sub, Sawyer pulls Jack aside and asks him to keep Flocke off the sub. Jack says he'll do what he can. They get to the sub, Sawyer leads the first group, and they reach it easily( a little TOO easily for my taste).The rest go in a second group, and Jack and Locke bring up the rear. Locke hands Jack a back pack(and I swear, I said to My Special Lady-"Did Flocke just give him the bomb?")

   As Flocke and Jack are walking to the sub, Flocke asks Jack why he feels he needs to stay on the Island, and Jack says, "John Locke told me I needed to stay" and then he pushes Flocke into the water. Kate gets shot by Widmore's snipers, and then Flocke and Claire get left on the dock. Flocke tells Claire that she doesn't want to be on that sub. the sub begins diving.

 Jack finds the bomb in his pack("We did exactly what he wanted us to."), and tries to convince everyone that they need to leave it alone, that they will not die(just like Jack and Richard in the Black Rock with the dynamite), because Flocke can't kill them, but he wants them to kill each other. sawyer doesn't listen, and pulls the wires, which speeds up the bomb, and makes it so that Sawyer is actually the one killing them all.

  Sayid then tells Jack that Desmond is in a well, and that Flocke wants him dead, which means that they will need him. Jack says"Why are you telling me this?" And Sayid answers: "Because it's going to be you, Jack." and grabs the bomb and runs away.

  The bomb detonates, Lapidus gets hit by the door and some water, but I'm guessing we might see him again, simply because we didn't actually see him die.

   Hurley gets Kate out. Sun is trapped. Jin, Jack and sawyer try to save her, Sawyer gets knocked out, and then Jack gets Sawyer out. Jin continues to try and free Sun, but he cannot. She implores him to go, but he says he won't leave her again. And they both go down with the sub.

   Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sawyer all end up on the beach. Kate hugs Jack and keeps repeating that she couldn't find him. Hurley finds out about Jin and Sun, and breaks down, as does Jack. Sawyer is still pretty unconscious.
   Flocke tells Claire that the sub sunk. Claire:"So, they're all dead?"
  Flocke(disgustedly)"Not all of them." he walsk off.
  Claire:"Where are you going?"
  Flocke:"To finish what I started."   YIKES!!!!!!

  Okay, so now we know without a doubt that Flocke/MIB is EVIL. the only question is if Widmore and Flocke could still be working together. I kinda doubt it, but I cannot rule it out either. And where are Miles, Alpert and Ben?

 I will admit that I teared up a bit when Sayid went all Anakin/Darth Vader on the bomb AND when Jin and Sun died.

  LOST is really bringing it so far this season. Pretty damn excited(and sad) for the last four and a half hours( apparently, an extra half hour has been added to the series Finale).

  What did I miss ? What do you guys think ?